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Posted by earths-emporium on 04-Nov-2009 11:20 Report
EQUIVALENTS PLEASE HELP
Patons apparently don't make Gem or Cotton Top any more.  Cotton Top is a 7ply and Gem is a 4 Ply.

Now I want to knit a top, which uses the above yarns, though on bigger than normal needles (it is a loose stitch) my problem is because the needles are different, and because yarns today don't seem to have ply's and I need a light cotton or silk yarn to do this top, how do I figure out what would be the equivalent to the above yarns??????
 
Replied by lees_jewels on 04-Nov-2009 14:08 (Ref 1972523) Report
I have some gem cotton somewhere earth .. I think it's either pale blue or lavender .. How many balls are you after?
Lee
Replied by earths-emporium on 04-Nov-2009 14:42 (Ref 1972569) Report
This is the top I want to knit, the band is in GEM 4 ply and the Body is in COTTON TOP 7 ply.

But neither of those are still made, I wanted a mid powder blue, or a terracotta, or a maize (deep butter) colour.  I purchased some black crepe chiffon with blue butterflies and terracotta roses on it which I am making into a skirt.
Replied by brerrabbit on 10-Nov-2009 22:42 (Ref 1980653) Report
Almost all patterns tell you the tension, which is basically how many stitches there are to the inch when using that particular yarn.  It's usually near the start of the pattern, just after where it says "X number of balls required" for whatever size.

Have a look on the pattern and see what the tension is and then find a yarn that has the same or a very similar tension on it and you'll have the same ply or very close.  If you can't find something exactly the same, divide the number of stitches for a particular size by the number of stitches per inch (cm, whatever) and you'll get the finished measurement.  Then you can do the same thing using the tension on the yarn.  You might find you have to knit a smaller or a larger size to get the same finished measurements.

If you've got a yarn in mind and know the tension that it knits up to, feel free to email me with the details, and also email the tension and measurements in the pattern you want to use, if you can't work it out.  I rarely use an original pattern in its entirety but take bits and pieces of different patterns and adapt them to suit.

Don't worry if your tension is looser or tighter than the ones stated on the pattern (unless you're using the exact same yarn) because it'll be consistent across all yarns that you use.  I hope you can understand all this!
Replied by earths-emporium on 11-Nov-2009 07:39 (Ref 1980803) Report
Thank you brerrabbit, haven't knitted in so long and everything seems to have changed, I'm off to search for a chart which will show needles in the old size and the equivalents in mm.
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