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Replied
by
legsinau
on
08-Nov-2009
07:18
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For
each
one
of
those
10-15
women
there would
be tens
of
thousands
of
woman
who
have
no
problems
after
getting
the
vaccine.
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Replied
by
aussiebrat69
on
08-Nov-2009
08:13
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1977009)
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Yeah
legs
is
right
there
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Replied
by
ozziediva
on
08-Nov-2009
08:14
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1977010)
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I
agree
with
legs
and
there
is
no
proof
that
the
miscarriages
were
due
to
the
vaccination.
It
could
be
coincidental.
They
may
have
been
going
to
miscarriage
anyway.
One
lady
commented
that
she
had
two
previously
successful
pregnancies
but
i
know
a
lot
of
people
that
have
had
several
successful
ones
and
then
had
a
miscarriage.
I
am
one
of
them.
I
have
3
babies
and
then
a
miscarriage.
You
would
also
have
to
ask
what
would
the
babies
chances
of
survival
be
if
you
actually
got
the
flu
and
had
to
have
medication.
Surely
that
wouldn't
be
good
either
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Replied
by
buzooki
on
08-Nov-2009
08:20
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1977012)
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You
would
have
to
look
at
the
rate
of
miscarriage
in
the
general
population
and
compare
it
with
the
rate
in
the
people
who
have
had
the
vaccine
to
find
if
there
is
any
real
difference,
you
would
probably
find
that
those
who
had
a
miscarriage
after
having
the
H1N1
vaccine
were
looking
for
a
reason,
when
more
often
than
not,
there
is
none.
and
the
rate
is
no
higher
than
for
anyone
else.
The
CDC
would
be
studying
this
very
closely,
they
would
not
release
results until
they
are certain
that
there
is
a
problem
or
not.
Miscarriage
is
more
common
than
anyone
realises.
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Replied
by
kazza27
on
08-Nov-2009
10:32
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1977137)
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You
know
this
saying
oh
it
could
be
a
coincidence
for
everything
to
do
with
vaccinations,
if
you
have
a
gardasil
vaccination
and
two
days
later,
heart
mumor
or
not
you
have
a
heart
attack
and
die.I
think
theres
a
link.
If
these
woman
had
the
flu
vaccination
and
a
couple
of
days
later
miscarried,
its
more
likely
to
do
with
the
vaccination
than
co-incidence.
People
that
died
from
the
swine
flu,
the
report
was
always
oh
they
had
other
health
complaints
which
contributed.
Not
they
got
sick
from
the
swine
flu
and
died.
I'd
like
to
see
people
on
both
sides
of
the
debate
on
this
vaccination
or
other,
just
acknowledge
that
people
have
died,
or
ended
up
with
a
serious
side
effects
from
vaccinations.
But
the
large
majority
of
the
people
that
have
vaccinations,
have
no
or
minor
side
effects.
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Replied
by
ozziediva
on
08-Nov-2009
11:20
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1977178)
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Perhaps
but
why
are
some
people
allergic
to
say
some
forms
of
antibiotics
and
some
not.
If
you
were
pregnant
and
didn't
have
the
vaccine
and
you
caught
the
flu
and
your
baby
died.
Would
that
be
any
better?
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Replied
by
calostemma
on
08-Nov-2009
11:45
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1977191)
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UNfortunately
we
are
all
unknown
factors
and
there
are
always
going
to
be
casualties
Dammed
if
you
do,
dammed
if
you
don't
There
are
even
those
who
die
under
anasthetic
because
they
are
allergic
to
one
of
the
componants,
but
how
do
you
know
befare
the
op?
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Replied
by
anarkii2
on
08-Nov-2009
11:56
(Ref
1977199)
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Its
probably
best
to
stick
to
facts
in
a
lot
of
cases
and
the
facts
as
I
know
them
are..
6000
people
world
wide
have
died
of
swine
flu
Swine
flu
vaccination
is
made
from
a
live
virus
and
remains
untested.
The
swine
flu
vaccination
process
is
made
the
same
way
as
other
live
virus
vaccinations
so
its
presumed
to
be
safe.
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Replied
by
kazza27
on
08-Nov-2009
18:36
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1977643)
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Its
a
hard
one
cause
theyre
claiming
pregnant
woman
are
the
most
at
risk,
of
swine
flu.
They
want
to
protect
there
bub
but
if
there
is
a
risk
of
misscarriage
then
they
also
should
be
informed.
That
by
having
this
vaccination
there
is
that
possibility.
Its
similar
to
there
was
a
particular
test
done
on
pregnant
women
to
check
the
baby,
cant
remember
what
its
called
but
alot
of
women
that
had
the
test
maybe
to
test
for
down
syndrome
or
something
they
misscarried.
Very
sad.
I
think
100+
people
died
from
the
swine
flu
this
year
in
Australia.
I
guess
we
will
see
with
this
vaccination,
the
level
of
side
effects/
deaths
involved.
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Replied
by
legsinau
on
09-Nov-2009
00:03
(Ref
1978103)
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6000
worldwide?
it's
hardly
a
pandemic
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Replied
by
piratepete
on
09-Nov-2009
01:04
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1978145)
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Pandemic:
An
epidemic
(a
sudden
outbreak)
that
becomes
very
widespread
and
affects
a
whole
region,
a
continent,
or
the
world.
www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp
Nothing
about
the
number
of
casualties.
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Replied
by
spicearoo
on
09-Nov-2009
13:56
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Buzooki:
"those
who
had
a
miscarriage
after
having
the
H1N1
vaccine
were
looking
for
a
reason,"
As
harsh
as
it
may
sound,
this
is
a
very
valid
point.
Miscarriage
is
a
sad
and
traumatic
experience,
no
matter
how
many
times
it
happens,
or
when.
spice
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by
buzooki
on
09-Nov-2009
14:16
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1978655)
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Hi
Spice,
Yes,
it
is
a
natural
thing
to
do.
Miscarriage
is
so
traumatic
and
heartbreaking,
you
want
to
know
why,
and
you
look
at
everything
you
have
done,
taken,
been
near,
etc.
to
try
to
find
a
reason.
I
just
finished
a
course
on
epidemiology,
which
is
medical
research,
and
while
there
is remote
possibility
that
it
may
cause
miscarriage,
you
would
really
have
to
compare
it
to
the
normal
rate
of
miscarriage
to
know
for
certain.
Jen
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Replied
by
starz_crazy_salez
on
09-Nov-2009
19:38
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1979071)
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“A
total
world
population
of
250-300
million
people,
a
95%
decline
from
present
levels,
would
be
ideal.”
Ted
Turner,
in
an
interview
with
Audubon
magazine
"There
were
just
too
goddamned
many
people….
To
really
reduce
population,
quickly,
you
have
to
pull
all
the
males
into
the
fighting
and
you
have
to
kill
significant
numbers
of
fertile
age
females….”
"The
quickest
way
to
reduce
population
is
through
famine,
like
in
Africa,
or
through
disease
like
the
Black
Death…."
Thomas
Ferguson,
State
Department
Office
of
Population
Affairs
"A
cancer
is
an
uncontrolled
multiplication
of
cells;
the
population
explosion
is
an
uncontrolled
multiplication
of
people….
We
must
shift
our
efforts
from
the
treatment
of
the
symptoms
to
the
cutting
out
of
the
cancer.
The
operation
will
demand
many
apparently
brutal
and
heartless
decisions."
Stanford
Professor
”
Paul
Ehrlich
in
The
Population
Bomb
"I
believe
that
human
overpopulation
is
the
fundamental
problem
on
Earth
Today”
and,
“We
humans
have
become
a
disease,
the
Humanpox.”
Dave
Foreman,
Sierra
Club
and
co
founder
of
Earth
First!
"Depopulation
should
be
the
highest
priority
of
foreign
policy
towards
the
third
world,
because
the
US
economy
will
require
large
and
increasing
amounts
of
minerals
from
abroad,
especially
from
less
developed
countries”.
Dr.
Henry
Kissinger
“The
present
vast
overpopulation,
now
far
beyond
the
world
carrying
capacity,
cannot
be
answered
by
future
reductions
in
the
birth
rate
due
to
contraception,
sterilization
and
abortion,
but
must
be
met
in
the
present
by
the
reduction
of
numbers
presently
existing.
This
must
be
done
by
whatever
means
necessary.”
Initiative
for
the
United
Nations
ECO-92
EARTH
CHARTER
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by
starz_crazy_salez
on
09-Nov-2009
19:38
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"Childbearing
should
be
a
punishable
crime
against
society,
unless
the
parents
hold
a
government
license.
All
potential
parents
should
be
required
to
use
contraceptive
chemicals,
the
government
issuing
antidotes
to
citizens
chosen
for
childbearing.”
David
Brower,
first
Executive
Director
of
the
Sierra
Club
“The
principle
that
sustains
compulsory
vaccination
is
broad
enough
to
cover
cutting
the
Fallopian
tubes.”
Justice
Oliver
Wendell
Holmes
“The
Planetary
Regime
might
be
given
responsibility
for
determining
the
optimum
population
for
the
world
and
for
each
region
and
for
arbitrating
various
countries’
shares
within
their
regional
limits.
Control
of
population
size
might
remain
the
responsibility
of
each
government,
but
the
Regime
would
have
some
power
to
enforce
the
agreed
limits.”
Obama’s
Science
czar
John
P.
Holdren:
From
a
book
he
helped
write
‘Ecoscience’
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by
piratepete
on
09-Nov-2009
19:42
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Well,
I'm
doing
my
bit,
starz.
I
haven't
and
won't
breed.
However
I
fail
to
see
what
this
has
to
do
with
pig
flu.
And
if
the
vaccine
DOES
cause
miscarriage,
which
I
doubt,
wouldn't
that
be
all
to
the
good
in
the
quest
to
reduce
population?
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Replied
by
calostemma
on
10-Nov-2009
08:52
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1979528)
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Anyone
wanting
to
help
reduce
the
world's
population
has
my
permission
to
commit
suicide
Notice
its
everyone
else
who
has
to
make
the
sacrifice?
Wonder
which
belif
system
they
subscribes
to?
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